Episode 102: Money is a fantasy, with Stacy-Marie Ishmael

Spade coins are among the most ancient forms of money in the world.

Why is it so hard to imagine money being different in the future? We talk about the problem of money in science fiction, the ancient history of spade coins, and cash that spies on you. Plus, we're joined by guest Stacy Marie Ishmael, managing editor for crypto at Bloomberg News, to talk about where money is headed in the future. Watch out for Bitcoins!

Annalee Newitz